quake/creation/Results1
From: Steve Bonine
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.os2.games,comp.sys.sgi.misc,rec.games.computer.doom.misc,alt.games.quake
Subject: RESULT: rec.games.computer.quake.{announce,misc,editing} pass
Date: 10 Nov 1995 21:37:01 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Message-ID:
Archive-Name: rec.games.computer.quake
RESULT
moderated group rec.games.computer.quake.announce passes 195:42
unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.editing passes 189:45
unmoderated group rec.games.computer.quake.misc passes 199:43
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
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195 42 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.quake.announce
189 45 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.quake.editing
199 43 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.games.computer.quake.misc
6 invalid votes
Newsgroups lines:
rec.games.computer.quake.announce Info/FAQ/Announcements about Quake. (Moderated)
rec.games.computer.quake.editing Editing and hacking Quake-related files.
rec.games.computer.quake.misc General discussion of Quake.
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 10 Nov 1995.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Kyle R. Hofmann
Votetaker: Steve Bonine
RATIONALE: all groups
Although the game has not been released yet, it is expected to be very
successful, given the amount of discussion already present on several
newsgroups and mailing lists. The alt.games.quake newsgroup alone
gets an average of more than 1300 messages per month and has received
more than 5000 messages since its creation. Most of the Doom-related
or action games newsgroups and mailing lists get a large number of
messages about Quake.
The Usenet readership statistics for alt.games.quake are included
below. They show that, despite the low propagation of the group, it is
already getting a lot of traffic. The replacement of alt.games.quake
by new groups in the rec hierarchy would mean that more Quake players
will be able to take part in the discussion (for comparison purposes,
the average propagation of the rec.games.computer.doom.* newsgroups is
around 51%).
Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
| Actual number of readers in sampled population
| | Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
| | | Recent traffic (messages per month)
| | | | Recent traffic (megabytes per month)
| | | | | Crossposting percentage
| | | | | | Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
| | | | | | | Share: % of newsrders
| | | | | | | | who read this group.
Month Rank V V V V V V V V
jul95 2506 4900 102 29% 1331 2.4 6% 0.13 0.2% alt.games.quake
may95 2792 9000 91 28% 977 1.7 6% 0.05 0.2% alt.games.quake
mar95 2547 7300 112 25% 507 0.8 5% 0.03 0.2% alt.games.quake
jan95 3095 2600 68 16% 309 0.6 8% 0.05 0.1% alt.games.quake
This first Request For Discussion proposes the creation of three
newsgroups. Other newgroups such as .playing, .multiplayer or .help
will be added later and will be part of a separate proposal, which will
be posted in November when more information about Quake is available.
These first three groups are proposed now in order to have them created
by the time Quake is released, thus preventing a flood of off-topic
messages in other newsgroups.
CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.announce
This is the only moderated group in this hierarchy. The sort of
postings likely to be approved by the moderator are general
announcements that are interesting to the broad spectrum of Quake
players. Examples of these types of articles are: anything from
id Software, FAQs and other periodical informational postings,
announcement of new levels or utilities, announcements of new
servers, reviews, etc.
The current moderator of rec.games.computer.doom.announce, Tony
Lezard, says that he would be happy to moderate this newsgroup
using the following addresses:
Submit: quake@mantis.co.uk
Contact: quake-request@mantis.co.uk (Tony Lezard)
CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.editing
Discussion in this group covers all aspects of editing and modifying
the game. Quake will be a highly customizable game and id Software
will release an editor which will allow people to create their own
universes and change the game in many ways. Additionally, lots of
third-party editors and utilities are expected to be released (some
of them have already been developed but will not be released before
Quake is available). Topics for this group will include: editors,
editing related questions and suggestions, playability issues, design
techniques, conversions of levels or objects to other formats.
Comments or questions about configuring a server or playing
user-written levels should not be posted here - post in .misc
instead (or in .playing when this group is created).
CHARTER: rec.games.computer.quake.misc
This group covers all topics that are not already covered by the
other groups in this hierachy. The range of topics will be very
broad at first, but will be reduced as other groups are created.
Examples include: playing standard or user-written levels, help about
playing the game or setting up a server, FTP issues, comparisons with
other games, piracy, etc.
This newsgroup replaces alt.games.quake.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.games.computer.quake.announce
Moderator: Tony Lezard
Administrative contact address: quake-request@mantis.co.uk
Article submission address: quake@mantis.co.uk
END MODERATOR INFO.
rec.games.compuer.quake Final Vote Ack
rec.games.computer.quake.misc -----+
rec.games.computer.quake.editing ----+|
rec.games.computer.quake.announce ---+||
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ted@psyber.com Ted Deppner YYY
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toledo@bart.us.es Juan Toledo Cota YYY
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tomw@tsys.demon.co.uk Tom Wheeley YYY
tony@mantis.co.uk Tony Lezard YYY
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wren@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Tim Wren YYY
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